At this point, I rather trade the boring spy system for agents (S2 had the best agent mechanic). I think it is better CA improve on other existing features such as the redundant spy system. I even vassalize Yuan Shao after we became Kings. I just finished Cao Cao campaign on the 1.3 opt in beta, no issues at all.

You have max credibility, you should have spent it to improve your relationship with Yuan Shao or instigate proxy war to 'check & balance' the top super powers. No offense to OP but you are playing as Cao Cao the wrong way. Not sure if still a thing, but i think when a faction is vassalised, if they had vassals they should become independent rather than following and becoming a vassal to another faction. I lost a campaign before on my first ever Sun Jian play through as Liu Bei vassalised Yuan Shao claiming all his vassals (which was most of the map.) and i find Liu Bei the most annoying in the end game as he gets so much militia spam armies & every faction loves him. Classic Lu Bu.īut yeah i just see it as a challenge and different lords becoming powerful implement different challenges in the late game, Yuan Shao's is a pain but in a previous campaign of mine as Sun Jian, as Yuan Shao was building up his vassel army i managed to get his biggest vassals to declare independence & he crumbled as had to fight on many fronts as he expanded in an unorganized fashion. & Lu Bu, who still has decent amount of territory is just at war against everyone by himself. I've formed a coalition with the bandit queen, Tao Quinn, Liu Zhang, Yuan Shu & Han Sui, & now its basically our coalition vs most of China. Don't get me wrong sometimes he can rise up to be a big boy, like my most recent campaign i'm playing though as He Yi L/L, i occupied the south & in that time Yuan Shao vassalised the majority of the map, when 3 kingdoms happened he took both other seats from Sun Quan & bandit queen, vassalised, Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Sun Quan, Ma Teng, Kong Rong and more. I've had play troughs where Yuan Shao has been a nothing lord who gets whipped out without even having to battle him.

I disagree, shouldn't be a cap on vassel's. 2K A Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia.846 A Total War Saga: Fall of the Samurai.

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